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Re: Non repeatability issue





1) You have way too many Newton steps. Newton is quadratically
convergent, so if
     you have 100+ steps, it means you are very very far from the
solution when you
     begin. In this region, Newton is a really bad algorithm and can
be very very
     sensitive to perturbations. I would never expect it to be
reproducible. From the
     well-known fracint demo, it can be chaotic.


The initial solution from which Newton's algorithm is started is obtained using a fixed point iterative scheme in which the turbulence transport eqn is solved de-coupled from the mean-flow eqns. This de-coupled solution strategy usually stalls (in terms of residual decrease) after a residual drop of a few orders of magnitude. At this stage Newton is invoked. From a qualitative view-point (say at plotting level) the initial solution is close to the fully converged one, but I will try to quantify this and check how mutually far or close are the two. Even for the 2D RANS eqns we have noticed a fairly "long" plateau in terms of residual convergence history before quadratic convergence occurs. This is also in line with the few references on the subject I have in mind. 3D Euler is far more benign in our experience.

 2) I would also question whether the system is actually stable.
Instability can result
     in occasional divergence based upon small perturbations.

We know this might occur. At this stage we are still
trying to make sure there are no implementation bugs
in our code.

Aldo

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Dr. Aldo Bonfiglioli
Dip.to di Ingegneria e Fisica dell'Ambiente (DIFA)
Universita' della Basilicata
V.le dell'Ateneo lucano, 10 85100 Potenza ITALY
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