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Re: [AG-TECH]Fun with Venue Servers and NATS



John,
A difference would only be seen if you had a bad connection to the bridge, or the bridge had problems with the multicast address. Dynamic vs. static shouldn't make a difference.


myk

At 01:20 PM 3/12/2007, you wrote:
Thank you MYK!

I will test this at at that site tomorrow.  If anyone is available after 1pm
EDT, in the NCSA Lobby I will try to test for at least four hours...most
likely using chat for communication:)  This is actually a cool problem.  Not
for production:( but as a puzzle:)

Anyone: (Opinion) Does it matter if I am testing this NATed site in the NCSA
Lobby or in a "room"...as one is dynamically multicasted and the rooms are
statically mulitcast addressed?  Would the nature of a NATed site more prone
to showing video in either case than the other? ...okay I know I am drawing
straws now:)

Thanks all,

John


Michael Miller <mimiller@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:

> John,
>
> If you look at the NATted site's Producer vic, do
> you see their video there?  You will need to
> unmute it.  What you describe occurs because only
> on app can receive data from a port at a
> time.  Since you have a single connection with
> the bridge, in order to get past the NAT, the
> first vic launched(in this case the producer)
> steals the data from the second vic.  Often you
> may see "waiting for video" in the consumer
> vic.  This only occurs in single machine nodes or
> any node that runs the producer and consumer vics on the same machine.
>
> The solution is to look for the missing video
> streams in the Producer vic, unmute them and open them from there.
>
> Let me know if you have questions.
>
> myk
>
> At 10:03 AM 3/12/2007, john langkals wrote:
> >Hello AG Tech,
> >
> >There have been a few emails discussing NATS and
> >Access Grid connectivity on the list lately.  I
> >am trying to setup and Access Grid at another
> >site.  Trying to go through their NAT on my end
> >is no problem. I see all external and local site
> >video just fine.   The only issue is the NATted
> >site will get most external video streams that
> >are connected but they do not see their local
> >video.  Also as they restart their video, more
> >remote site video streams appear.  Just no local
> >video. This is no surprise as NATed routers do
> >not have true end to end connectivity and it may
> >break some IP protocols such as UDP. I am
> >testing in the NCSA Lobby (venue server) and as
> >this site does not support off site multicast,
> >they are bridging unicast.  I have tested this in AG 2.4/3.0.2.
> >
> >My question is?if I would setup my own venue
> >server, would I be able to pull off any tricks
> >for both sides to transmit and received video
> >just between our two sites? Hoping only just
> >connecting between two sites would help out some
> >how? Is there any way to build a stripped down
> >venue server that would pull off any port
> >forwarding tricks?  I remember there was a
> >project called AG Connector but I can?t find any
> >information about it.  To anyone?s knowledge, would this be useful in my
quest?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >John
> >
> >John Langkals
> >Systems Manager
> >Ohio Center for Technology and Science
> >M2021 Physics Research Building
> >191 West Woodruff Avenue
> >Columbus, Ohio 43210
> >614.292.6957 Office
> >614.327.3732 Cell
> >614.292.7557 FAX
> >www.octs.osu.edu
> >
>



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